The LLL.com sales report & discussion thread

[italiandragon]

We need this one too guys

This guide will also help LLLL.com holders to understand more the value of their 4 letters .com based on how expensive the similar 3 letters .com are.

From:

http://3character.com/priceguide.html

Pricing Guide for 3-Letter (Composed Of Letters Only) Domains:

Current Observed Minimum Wholesale Price (regardless of letter combo) as of February 1, 2008:

3-Letter .com - $6700 (+ $300 since January 1, 2008 report)

But I consider their guide a bit old since they are not taking in consideration the emergenging countries that appreciate other letters and as we have run a poll here several times lately, the majority of people consider the letters U
and W to be Premium letters.

Let`s have a look at some recent LLL.com sales as reported from NameBio.com :


nak.com $27,135 2007-12-22 SEDO.com
nyz.com $10,605 2007-12-19 tdnam
utw.com $10,100 2007-12-10 SEDO.com
via.com $157,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
cgf.com $14,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
vkx.com $6,200 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
mje.com $10,734 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
okf.com $8,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
our.com $60,000 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
kxr.com $7,101 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
lhg.com $13,613 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
wae.com $10,099 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
hya.com $7,499 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
yrd.com $9,100 2007-12-05 SEDO.com
vfk.com $15,750 2007-11-29 AfterNic.com
qee.com $10,882 2007-11-27 SEDO.com

 

[Argentum]

ZMI.com - 30,200 USD

 

[Argentum]

$30-40k range sales were 6-7 years ago, I wonder why someone sells now LLL.com for such amount especially to resellers..my point that currently LLL.com floor price is $100k and that will rise and such budget can afford any mid level company for domain name & marketing / reputation purposes, i'm not talking even about big companies.

 

[djum]

my point that currently LLL.com floor price is $100k

If that's your own floor price I can understand, but REAL floor price is even less than 30K, I've seen sales reported in teens and 20s in this thread not so far ago.

People sell for many reasons, one need cash quickly, second want to fix profit, others see better investment opportunities and so on. Keep waiting, in 10 years or less someone will pay you 100K for LLL.com, no doubt.
Rich Chinese investor, probably.

 

[NPer]

If that's your own floor price I can understand, but REAL floor price is even less than 30K, I've seen sales reported in teens and 20s in this thread not so far ago.

I'm aware of a private sale that happened recently around $16k...

 

[Argentum]

NNN.com floor price nowadays is about $100k and they are dedicated ONLY to Chinese..
LLL.com can be used globally including Chinese..so it have at least 100x times more potential customers than NNN.com.. Owners decide for how much sell their names for $16k or $100k, my opinion floor price is $100k for someone it can be even $1k, that is their choose, but last few month sales like qjs.com - $150k, obe.com - $200k, aux.com - $100k confirms only my opinion. Currently spam offers from resellers for LLL.com's already in $30-50k range depending on letters.

 

[djum]

Owners decide for how much sell their names that's true.

But investors decide what to buy as well. Unless your name is real good, they will have no problem buying another name or two-three for market price that you consider spam offer, instead of paying 100K for yours.
And domain investors rule the market today, not end-users.

Just wait another 5-10 years, when market price will reach your asking 100K and someone will offer it.

 

[kemjika11]

$30-40k range sales were 6-7 years ago, I wonder why someone sells now LLL.com for such amount especially to resellers..my point that currently LLL.com floor price is $100k and that will rise and such budget can afford any mid level company for domain name & marketing / reputation purposes, i'm not talking even about big companies.

You're either wrong or stating what you're saying wrongly. dead wrong.

 

[Argentum]

Recent sales and future sales will show who is wrong there

 

[djum]

Recent sales and future sales will show who is wrong there

No doubt.

But if I had 30K laying around today I would only put them into LLL.com if had no time and will to manage my investments.

Otherwise I would put them into LLLL .com and .net with Chinese flavor and some digital patterns.
There is hot market today and real chance to double your money within few months, not 3-4 years.

LLL.com is retirement plan asset, LLLL - stock for younger and active investor.

 

[domeen]

LLL.com is retirement plan asset, LLLL - stock for younger and active investor.

come on, i think its the other way around, isn`t it?

 

[djum]

And why you think so, elaborate.

 

[domeen]

LLL prices are too high already, they will go up, but not so fast
LLLL prices are low

and I am not talking about .net-s

 

[djum]

And you just confirming what I say, that LLLL will grow faster and LLL is more solid asset.
If you understand stock market then, LLL.com is blue chips, LLLL.com - mid-cap and LLLL.net - small cap.Higher risk = higher reward.
People who bought LLLL.net for 1$ will easily collect 200-500% ROI next day.
LLLL.com investors will get 50% in a month.
And LLL.com it will take few years to get this 50%, but you feel more confident, that price won't go down to zero or 5000$ when next crisis starts, or may be it will?

 

[domeen]

yes, you are right

 

[Argentum]

LLL.com is retirement plan asset, LLLL - stock for younger and active investor.

I agree on this.

 

[djum]

Chinese LLLL.net price dynamics:

10-19 375
10-20 494 +31.73%
10-21 467 -5.47%
10-22 418 -10.49%
10-23 415 -0.72%
10-24 468 +12.77%
10-25 300 -35.9%
10-26 599 +99.67%
10-27 648 +8.18%
10-28 679 +4.78%
10-29 715 +5.3%
10-30 morning 924? (price atm)
Prices went up 2,46 times in 12 days.

 

[Argentum]

Chinese LLLL.net price dynamics:

10-19 375
10-20 494 +31.73%
10-21 467 -5.47%
10-22 418 -10.49%
10-23 415 -0.72%
10-24 468 +12.77%
10-25 300 -35.9%
10-26 599 +99.67%
10-27 648 +8.18%
10-28 679 +4.78%
10-29 715 +5.3%
10-30 morning 924? (price atm)
Prices went up 2,46 times in 12 days.

Got $3k offer from Chinese for one of my LLLL.net.. So seems like there is real demand in LLLL.net as well. But in anycase I thing everything except .com is waste of money

 

[gilescoley]

$30-40k range sales were 6-7 years ago, I wonder why someone sells now LLL.com for such amount especially to resellers..my point that currently LLL.com floor price is $100k and that will rise and such budget can afford any mid level company for domain name & marketing / reputation purposes, i'm not talking even about big companies.

You need to study lll.com sales over a long period of time to see you are way off the mark here, what do you base your figures on?

There are a few sales over 100k, but majority are under $50K

I have spreadsheet of every reported lll.com sales and a few private ones I know of from clients and friends of mine as well

 

[kemjika11]

You need to study lll.com sales over a long period of time to see you are way off the mark here, what do you base your figures on?

There are a few sales over 100k, but majority are under $50K

I have spreadsheet of every reported lll.com sales and a few private ones I know of from clients and friends of mine as well

So you're confirming what i said about his comments...lol

 

[kemjika11]

But GO LLLs though!

 

[Argentum]

People i'm not saying that LLL.com floor price is $100k, I'm saying that I thing it must be considering current domain market demand and value of NNN.com and even LLLL.com, owner can sell it for whatever he wishes, even for $1k, we all have different situations in life, someone needs urgently money, etc. as "djum" said "LLL.com is retirement plan asset, LLLL - stock for younger and active investor." I know big domainers who even not reply on emails if see offer less than $100k for their domain names, and they sell them! Again, $100k nowadays is not big money, it's price of one good car, not more, and any mid. level company from developed countries can afford it.

 

[Argentum]

So today LLL.com sale is NTQ.com at $44,600 on Namejet with 151 bidders, sale was at exactly the same amount range which is currently Chinese offer to owners of LLL.com's by whois. For me it seems like floor price for LLL.com rise from $35k to $40k for resellers.

There is still few Namejet auctions on LLL.com's which will end in few days, for example JFS.com current bid is $31,313 and RSC.com current bid is $51,515

 

[djum]

I'm sure in future any LLL.com will cost 100K.
But how soon this future will come we can only guess..

RSC is good one, SC = market in PinYin, watch it to go higher, I'm sure they can figure what to put for R.

 

[gilescoley]

I know big domainers who even not reply on emails if see offer less than $100k for their domain names, and they sell them!

Yes they do, but you can do that when you have 20,000 or 100,000 names or even 100 names and they are all premium, but none of us here do, and thats the issue

People i'm not saying that LLL.com floor price is $100k, I'm saying that I thing it must be considering current domain market

The floor prices is really dependent on what the market indicates and what the names are selling for. Believe me, I would love the floor price to be 100K (I think it should be 200K)

 

[En]

What is a fair price for a company to buy a shop in Oxford Street, or a billboard in Time Square?

LLL.COMs are TOP domains, some of the easiest to remember and type.