Charybdis
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Here is what happened, a seller mentioned in the sales thread that they accept PayPal as a payment method.
We had negotiated the sale but then this seller wanted me to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method. I declined this request, since it would be against the PayPal User Agreement. Here is the link: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full?locale.x=en_US#fees-for-sending-money
"You must not send money as a personal transaction (often referred to as using the “send money to a friend or family member” feature in your PayPal account) when you are paying for goods or services." - according to the PayPal User Agreement.
A seller simply cannot force me to break the PayPal User Agreement just save a few bucks on the transaction fees. Buying a domain name from a NamePros member is "paying for goods or services". It can never be a transaction between friends or family members, but it is a business transaction. So I think there is not a single instance when the "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method would be justified.
And here comes the problem, because I declined the seller's request to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" and I told them that I can only pay by a "normal" PayPal transaction, they wanted me to pay extra to cover their PayPal transaction fees. But that is against the NamePros rules: https://www.namepros.com/threads/official-rules-of-namepros.848752/
"6.1.7. Sellers are responsible for paying all transaction fees except those the buyer could have avoided or the buyer chooses to pay. Sellers should take fees into consideration when choosing sale prices and starting bids. "
So this kind of misunderstanding can be avoided by disallowing this "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method in the NamePros rules. Because looks like sometimes if a seller mentioned in the sales thread that they accept PayPal, what they really mean is that they expect the buyers to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member", but that is against the PayPal User Agreement, but unfortunately not every seller reads the full PayPal User Agreement so they don't know this.
So in short my suggestion is to include this in the NamePros rules:
It is prohibited to force a buyer to use the "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method.
We had negotiated the sale but then this seller wanted me to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method. I declined this request, since it would be against the PayPal User Agreement. Here is the link: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full?locale.x=en_US#fees-for-sending-money
"You must not send money as a personal transaction (often referred to as using the “send money to a friend or family member” feature in your PayPal account) when you are paying for goods or services." - according to the PayPal User Agreement.
A seller simply cannot force me to break the PayPal User Agreement just save a few bucks on the transaction fees. Buying a domain name from a NamePros member is "paying for goods or services". It can never be a transaction between friends or family members, but it is a business transaction. So I think there is not a single instance when the "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method would be justified.
And here comes the problem, because I declined the seller's request to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" and I told them that I can only pay by a "normal" PayPal transaction, they wanted me to pay extra to cover their PayPal transaction fees. But that is against the NamePros rules: https://www.namepros.com/threads/official-rules-of-namepros.848752/
"6.1.7. Sellers are responsible for paying all transaction fees except those the buyer could have avoided or the buyer chooses to pay. Sellers should take fees into consideration when choosing sale prices and starting bids. "
So this kind of misunderstanding can be avoided by disallowing this "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method in the NamePros rules. Because looks like sometimes if a seller mentioned in the sales thread that they accept PayPal, what they really mean is that they expect the buyers to pay by "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member", but that is against the PayPal User Agreement, but unfortunately not every seller reads the full PayPal User Agreement so they don't know this.
So in short my suggestion is to include this in the NamePros rules:
It is prohibited to force a buyer to use the "PayPal - send money to a friend or family member" payment method.