Regarding Google PageRank

[jane118]

i have this site

bannershop.ca


if i go to it via typing in "bannershop.ca" only the pagerank is none

but if i type in "www.bannershop.ca" the page rank is 4


whats up with that

 

[Elefekt]

It depends what ppl link to.

Like i link to http://bannershop.ca then it reads specifically for that URL.

But if i link to http://www.bannershopt.ca then it will be that URL.

So basically you can conlude more ppl are linking www.bannershop.ca rather than just bannershop.ca

Hope that helps.

 

[Wesley]

Really? Wow, that helps me out a ton

 

[Anthony]

That's a good point. I really think it would make more sense for Google to evaluate PageRank based on the www.------ and without www. versions of the site, since they are the same page afterall.

 

[Raf]

Id have to agree with Elefekt, great explanation. :tu:

 

[pelican]

it is better to link with www.

 

[Dan Grossman]

Originally posted by Anthony
That's a good point. I really think it would make more sense for Google to evaluate PageRank based on the www.------ and without www. versions of the site, since they are the same page afterall.

They're not always the same site, although Google usually recognizes if they are the same after repeated crawls and merges their entries in search results under one of the variations of the domain. PR on the toolbar doesn't always reflect PR used in SERPs either.

 

[Anthony]

Originally posted by Dan Grossman
They're not always the same site, although Google usually recognizes if they are the same after repeated crawls and merges their entries in search results under one of the variations of the domain. PR on the toolbar doesn't always reflect PR used in SERPs either.

That's true, although they are most likely the same site. I wonder how that would affect PageRank...

 

[d0mainguru]

This is a silly mistake from google point of view, they need to fix it really and for the pr to undertsand taht http:// and www are the same thing

 

[Dan Grossman]

You need to fix your understanding of the Internet to know that domain.com and www.domain.com don't have to be the same, and in enough cases aren't to warrant assuming there might be different content on the two URLs if some people link to one and another to the other (otherwise the domain without www.* wouldn't have gotten any PR).

 

[Peter]

Originally posted by d0mainguru
This is a silly mistake from google point of view, they need to fix it really and for the pr to undertsand taht http:// and www are the same thing

how do you conclude that http and www are the same

http is a protocol

www is an extension put onto a domain but could easily be ww1 ww2 etc etc as many large companies do (each would point to a different server)

 

[WebsiteMax]

Yes, filth is right, www is not with http so like Elefekt said, I noticed this one of my sites as well.

 

[BuLLDoG]

the www on your domain is just like a subdomain and can point to a diffrent site, I have seen a few sites that the domain.com points to one site and the www.domain.com points to a completly diffrent site or some use one for testing purpose. It would be cool if google reconised if your domain.com and www.domain.com was the same site and gave you a PR on both.

 

[Dan Grossman]

Internally, Google does recognize it after enough crawls (you'll notice search results will stop showing both and only have one domain format), but they usually don't assign one PR to both on the toolbar.

 

[webscorpion]

All my domains have the same PR on different "formats":

http://www.domain.com
www.domain.com
domain.com

 

[csmaster2005]

heh, never noticed that about google page rank

 

[Peter]

google's pr rating seems to be buggered at the moment.

ive got sites with nothing on it and all of a sudden a couple of weeks ago they got pr of 3

 

[CoolGuy]

Oh okay that's was why I kept getting 0.

:D

 

[csmaster2005]

heh, hope the new site I start gets a good pagerank

 

[Dan Grossman]

I wish PR actually meant something. What used to be huge changes (PR6 to 7, PR0 to 4) now do almost nothing to actual search ranks.

 

[Anthony]

Originally posted by BuLLDoG
the www on your domain is just like a subdomain and can point to a diffrent site, I have seen a few sites that the domain.com points to one site and the www.domain.com points to a completly diffrent site or some use one for testing purpose. It would be cool if google reconised if your domain.com and www.domain.com was the same site and gave you a PR on both.

Right, but that is misleading at best and only for advanced domain operators who know about it. Essentially with and without the domain are the same thing in practical terms, since most websites don't set them up differently. Google should recognize that.

 

[Mark]

How many of you have your PR change drastically during the same day ?

I use the same url (one of mine of course) as my home page to start the day and some times PR=0 PR=1 PR=6 ????

It gives me false hope some times and breaks my heart the next ......... LOL -

 

[Peter]

I personally only have 1 page that I take any notice of regarding google pr and it has never changed much currently 4 and has been 4 for some time now.

 

[csmaster2005]

Originally posted by all4cost
How many of you have your PR change drastically during the same day ?

I use the same url (one of mine of course) as my home page to start the day and some times PR=0 PR=1 PR=6 ????

It gives me false hope some times and breaks my heart the next ......... LOL -

someone might be playing games with you're site by linking to it and not linking

 

[Peter]

Originally posted by csmaster2005
someone might be playing games with you're site by linking to it and not linking

would that make such a dramatic increase / decrease so quick tho. I thought that would take some time to take affect