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Trump is a disruptor, plain and simple. He continues to abuse the 'right' of freedom of speech. This character flaw has clearly been evidenced time and again by repetitively lying to the American public, as Lindsey Graham said, "one who plays the game to the bitter end has forfeited the right to lead the country".
 
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As I have stated before, the right to freedom of expression is recognised as a human right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and International human rights law by the United Nations.

Trump withdrew USA from the UN Human Rights Council, WHO and UNESCO. He also withdrew from TPP, the Paris Accord and threatened to leave NATO.

Trump is a disruptor, plain and simple.
 
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Zero democrats vote for a House bill to stop men from competing in women's sports, including Title IX.

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Democrats = Bloody Jackasses!
 
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Trump is a disruptor, plain and simple. He continues to abuse the 'right' of freedom of speech.
How does he do that?


This character flaw has clearly been evidenced time and again by repetitively lying to the American public, as Lindsey Graham said, "one who plays the game to the bitter end has forfeited the right to lead the country".
Joe Biden is worse.
 
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Like clock work..

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How many white supremacists get police escorts ?


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How does he do that?

A Commander in Chief with no checks or balances is abuse of power and position.

Trump explicitly said, "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution". Instead he could have made a statutory ammendment to the Constitution such as, "The right to be lied to".

Under commercial law, false advertising is illegal, so why should free speech be any different? :unsure:
 
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Trump withdrew USA from the UN Human Rights Council, WHO and UNESCO. He also withdrew from TPP, the Paris Accord and threatened to leave NATO.
That is the ultimate goal of Putin's puppet. The best dream of all Putin's best dreams is precisely that one, to terminate the NATO alliance.
And the charlatan keep saying "Make America Great Again" when what everything he is doing is in order to "Make Russia Great Again".
A Commander in Chief with no checks or balances is abuse of power and position.

Trump explicitly said, "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution". Instead he could have made a statutory ammendment to the Constitution such as, "The right to be lied to".

Under commercial law, false advertising is illegal, so why should free speech be any different? :unsure:
Another of the best of Putin's best dreams, to destroy the USA and its Constitution, if possible putting a puppet in power, like Trump would be.
 
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A summary of Putin's goals and what his puppet has done or tried to do:

Trump trying to terminate with NATO alliance --> Putin's BEST DREAM.

Trump trying to terminate with any Western alliance isolating the US from its allies --> Putin's goal to undermine the free world.

Trump willing to terminate with the US Constitution --> Another of Putin's best dream.

Trump inciting an Attack at the Capitol, and trying by all dirty and unlawful means to subvert the free election results and the will of the people, and by doing so, to undermine and destroy if possible the US free election system and democracy --> Another of Putin's best dream.

So, in summary, a complete traitor to the US, a rich charlatan made rich by inheritance living in a gold Palace and doing everything he can to favor Putin's interests, has someway convinced some people to vote for him, even making the motto of "Make America Great Again" when what they are really voting is to "Make his Wallet Great Again" and "Make Russia Great Again". :facepalm: :banghead:
 
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A Commander in Chief with no checks or balances is abuse of power and position.
You said "He continues to abuse the 'right' of freedom of speech."

How does Trump abuse the "right" of freedom of speech.

Trump explicitly said, "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution". Instead he could have made a statutory ammendment to the Constitution such as, "The right to be lied to".
source for this claim?
Under commercial law, false advertising is illegal, so why should free speech be any different? :unsure:

If you're talking about defamation and libel laws, you'll need to prof. But we have lots of prof of democrats abusing speech,

"pee tape"

"fine people"

"Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’"

on and on..

All libelous, all defamatory all repeated multiple times in this thread.
 
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While @JB Lions was googling Martha Stewart in a swimsuit, the Durham report was released.

TL;DR The CIA briefed Obama, Biden, Comey of Hillary Clinton's plan to slander and defame Donald Trump.

FBI Agent Peter Strock told a UK intelligence agent there was nothing to the allegations in the Steele report.

Then the FBI later used the Steele report to launch an "investigation" into Trump and associates without any evidence to support an investigation.

The FBI framed several people, tried to frame more. Democrats and the media exploited the investigation to hamstring the Trump administration and turn Americans, especially gullible liberals and neo-cons against Trump.

 
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While @JB Lions was googling Martha Stewart in a swimsuit, the Durham report was released.

TL;DR The CIA briefed Obama, Biden, Comey of Hillary Clinton's plan to slander and defame Donald Trump.

FBI Agent Peter Strock told a UK intelligence agent there was nothing to the allegations in the Steele report.

Then the FBI later used the Steele report to launch an "investigation" into Trump and associates without any evidence to support an investigation.

The FBI framed several people, tried to frame more. Democrats and the media exploited the investigation to hamstring the Trump administration and turn Americans, especially gullible liberals and neo-cons against Trump.

Um, I actually saw the Stewart stuff trending on Twitter since your people were having a meltdown over it, along with crying over another beer brand.

Think of what you just posted and the phony Biden stuff you’ve been pushing
 
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Think about being poor in a country rich with the world's largest oil and gas reserves...can you guess who wants to install a puppet regime?
The Democrats?

In the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, everyone has 'the right to life, liberty and security of the person' and the 'right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice'. Therefore, disseminating untruths is not a protected right.
In other words, you have the right to free speech except when the Ministry of Truth" decides you don't. How is that different from any dictatorship in the world?
Trump is a disruptor, plain and simple.
Disruption is sorely needed.
Trump withdrew USA from the UN Human Rights Council, WHO and UNESCO. He also withdrew from TPP, the Paris Accord and threatened to leave NATO.
So?

Sorry if you felt condescended to, but you really don't support free speech if the right to free speech is determined case by case by whoever is in charge. The lying sociopaths ruling our countries are happy to tell us what the truth is. Why anybody would believe them is something I still have trouble understanding.
 
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The Democrats?

They that pulls the strings..BIGly corporations.

In other words, you have the right to free speech except when the Ministry of Truth" decides you don't. How is that different from any dictatorship in the world?

If that were the case, then any words can and will be used against you. Do you believe in accountability?

Disruption is sorely needed.

Truer words have never been spoken. :xf.wink:

Sorry if you felt condescended to, but you really don't support free speech if the right to free speech is determined case by case by whoever is in charge. The lying sociopaths ruling our countries are happy to tell us what the truth is. Why anybody would believe them is something I still have trouble understanding.

There's the crux, social justice vs. the system. AI will be the judge... I'm not even going to go down that bunnyhole 🐰
 
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If that were the case, then any words can and will be used against you. Do you believe in accountability?

Accountable to whom? Kim Jong Un? Free speech is free speech. Any exceptions in cases of incitement need to be very carefully scrutinized. I have been opposed to "hate crime" laws since the beginning for this reason.
 
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Accountable to whom? Kim Jong Un?

LOL, good one. :xf.laugh:

Free speech is free speech. Any exceptions in cases of incitement need to be very carefully scrutinized. I have been opposed to "hate crime" laws since the beginning for this reason.

That's for the courts to decide IMO, always a delayed reaction and people's memories are short.
 
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Trumpster posted on TS, later redacted when he realized he'd made a boo-boo. :oops:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-termination-us-constitution/

Snopes slants the truth whichever way they want. Interestingly here, though Trump has always been clumsy with words, he is right and his accusers are wrong simply because they cannot understand the difference between "allows" and "allows for." Or they just don't want to understand the difference.

The Snopes article is very carefully worded to avoid this crucial point. Trump's detractors want to imply that Trump said the fraud allows the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. As usual, they want to suggest it's his desire to become a dictator - the usual drivel.

He, instead said “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”

"Allows for" is not the same as "allows."

One could just as easily take this to mean that the massive fraud is symptomatic of the termination of all rules, etc. Though that would just be an interpretation as well, as the words he uses are unclear and need further explanation.

"Allows for" means to take into consideration or to anticipate something. In this context, the meaning is unclear. Simply changing "allows for" to mean "allows" is dishonest. Snopes knows this, so they avoided it. But they know their readers will do it for them.
 
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Point taken, but 'allows' is still a danger word... again, who's the judge?
Words are just tools, like hammers. They are not inherently dangerous. There is no need for a judge here because there is nothing to judge. It's just an unclear statement that can be misinterpreted to achieve a desired effect, or simply ignored until clarified.
 
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On words, from the marketing classic Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind

Playing the positioning game

Some people have trouble playing the positioning game because they are hung up on words. They assume, incorrectly, that words have meanings. They let Mr. Webster rule their life.

You must understand the role of words

As general semanticists have been saying for decades, words don’t contain meanings. The meanings are not in the words. They are in the people using the words. Like a sugar bowl which is empty until someone fills it with sugar, a word has no meaning until someone uses it and fills it with meaning. If you try to add sugar to a leaky sugar bowl, you won’t get anywhere. So, too, if you try to add meaning to a leaky word. Much better to discard that leaky word and use another. The word “Volkswagen” won’t hold the concept of a medium-sized luxury car, so you discard that sugar bowl and use another, “Audi,” which holds the concept better. You don’t insist that because it’s made in a Volkswagen factory, it must be a Volkswagen. Mental rigidity is a barrier to successful positioning. (While Volkswagen faltered in the American market, Audi boomed. Currently Audi outsells BMW and is breathing down the neck of Mercedes-Benz.) To be successful today at positioning, you must have a large degree of mental flexibility. You must be able to select and use words with as much disdain for the history book as for the dictionary. Not that conventional, accepted meanings are not important. Quite the contrary. You must select the words which trigger the meanings you want to establish. But is this ethical? Remember, words have no meaning. They are empty containers until you fill them with meaning. If you want to reposition a product, a person, or a country, you often have to first change the container. In a sense, every product or service is “packaged goods.” If it isn’t sold in a box, the name becomes the box.

You must know how words affect people

Words are triggers. They trigger the meanings which are buried in the mind. Of course, if people understood this, there would be no advantage in renaming a product or selecting emotional words like Mustang for an automobile. But they don’t. Most people are “unsane.” They’re not completely sane and they’re not completely insane. They’re somewhere in between. What’s the difference between sane people and insane people? What exactly do insane people do? Alfred Korzybski, who developed the concept of general semantics, explains that insane people try to make the world of reality fit what is in their heads. The insane person who thinks he is Napoleon makes the outside world fit that notion. The sane person constantly analyzes the world of reality and then changes what’s inside his or her head to fit the facts. That’s an awful lot of trouble for most people. Besides, how many people want to constantly change their opinions to fit the facts? It’s a whole lot easier to change the facts to fit your opinions. Unsane people make up their minds and then find the facts to “verify” their opinion. Or even more commonly, they accept the opinion of the nearest “expert,” and then they don’t have to bother with the facts at all. So you see the power of the psychologically right name. The mind makes the world of reality fit the name. A Mustang looks sportier, racier, and faster than if the same car had been called the Turtle. Language is the currency of the mind. To think conceptually, you manipulate words. With the right choice of words, you can influence the thinking process itself. (As proof that the mind “thinks with words” and not abstract thoughts, consider how a language is learned. To be really fluent in a foreign language, say French, you must learn to think in French.) But there are limits. If a word is so far out of touch with reality, the mind just refuses to use the word. It says “large” on the tube that everyone except the manufacturer calls a “small” toothpaste tube. It says “economy” on the tube that everyone calls “large.” The People’s Republic of China is usually called “Red China” because no one believes it is a “people’s republic.” (Inside the country, the People’s Republic of China is undoubtedly an effective name.)
 
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Words are just tools, like hammers. They are not inherently dangerous. There is no need for a judge here because there is nothing to judge.

Taken in context, the omission of a preposition is almost secondary...especially when the gavel hits the desk.

It's just an unclear statement that can be misinterpreted to achieve a desired effect, or simply ignored until clarified.

Taken in isolation, yes. It remains to be seen. Do you still believe the election was stollen? :ROFL:
 
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